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Plainville passes override
![]() Bob Irving, left and Anne-Marie Martin campaign for a "Yes" vote outside the Wood School in Plainville on Monday. (Staff photo by Martin Gavin)
Top Headlines Residents approve measure by 10 votes
PLAINVILLE - Town officials and residents cheered, hugged and breathed collective sighs of relief Monday night as the town's $650,000 Proposition 21/2 override passed by 10 votes, 724-714.Nearly twenty-seven percent of the town's 5,413 registered voters - 1,438 residents - turned out to make the close call. Onlookers in the Wood School gym made phone calls to pass along the good news and planned celebrations after the results were announced. The override's passage will prevent massive cuts and layoffs across town departments. "We're elated," Selectmen Chairman Rob Rose said. "I mean, how many other towns get to vote an override, especially in this financial situation?" Rose said the key to passing the override was the character of the citizens in town. "There's no playbook, there's no magic wand," Rose said. "We've got special people that care, and they did the right thing." Selectman Robert Fennessy said he was "ecstatic" and likewise praised residents for putting the town's needs before their own. "It speaks volumes about the quality of the people in town, knowing that this is going to hurt them a little financially, but to still put that money back into the town," Fennessy said. Without an override, the town's infrastructure would have been decimated. Five of 12 jobs in town hall - including the town planner's position - would have been lost, the equivalent of two positions would have been cut from the police department and one would have been cut from the fire department, the park department would have been cut in half, the senior center would have lost its outreach worker - one of two employees besides the bus driver - and the library budget would have been cut by about 20 percent, putting it at risk to lose state certification. Without an override, the highway department would have lost three employees. With an override it still loses two, but most other departments will be restored, if not fully, at least so that layoffs will not occur. The town planner position, now occupied by Amy Love, will be reduced to part-time. Among the positions saved was that of Ann Marie Eisele, the town's assistant assessor and a widow and mother of three. "Thank you Plainville, thank you Plainville," Eisele said after the results were announced. "I was scared. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what to do. I would have been up the creek because it's just my income." The schools, which would have been level-funded without an override, will now see a 4 percent increase over last year's budget. That's not the 6.7 percent increase originally requested, but it does prevent key programs and staff from being cut. "I'm very pleased," Superintendent David Raiche said. "I know it was a very difficult decision, because every day you hear more bad news about the cost of things. I appreciate that people are willing to sacrifice for town services, and in my case, school services. It makes us want to work even harder." No one was more satisfied by the override's passage than Town Administrator Joseph Fernandes, who has overseen - and agonized over - the budget process. "I am just absolutely elated and relieved," Fernandes said. "I'm just thrilled. The community never ceases to amaze me. We still have difficult times ahead, but this just makes it that much more manageable." Without an override, next year's fiscal situation looked disastrous and town officials predicted that within two to three years, the library, senior center and park department would be completely eliminated. Resident Bob Irving organized the Yes for Plainville 2008 campaign that helped to raise awareness about the override through signs, meetings, phone calls and e-mails. He said he wants the town to continue making forward progress. "I wanted to see Plainville keep moving forward and not go back," he said. "It was a necessary override that affected many departments across the board. There's so much that Plainville needs to do in town. "It just made sense," Irving said. "I'm proud that the people in Plainville could see beyond just today; they can see into the future."
Post Your Comments Beantown wrote on Jul 10, 2008 4:06 AM: " I love how you "plainvillians" bicker about this whole override vote when it was years back when you all should have acted and voted AGAINST the NEW schools (which you will all be paying for for a very long time) and put that money towards something useful like maybe tax-breaks for either the community or possibly a company looking to build in the town...and by that i don't mean "Chili's, Stop & Shop, Target, or even Lowes" i mean something that will actually generate quality money....this town has destroyed it's image (if you even wanted to call it an image) and if you citizens don't get your priorities straight Plainville will be no more..... " quackle wrote on Jun 26, 2008 11:32 AM: " Whooops... I meant "seniority". I wish we had the capability to edit. " quackle wrote on Jun 26, 2008 11:15 AM: " tivo.junkie- First of all, I do not teach in Plainville. I think you have said more to actually prove MY point. Second, I WOULD NOT have an issue with negotiating a new benefits package. My, you do like to put words in folks' mouths. In the town in which I am employed, we were/are considering increasing co-pays and we already (and always do) pay more on a yearly basis for health insurance. Again, I am not sure where you obtain your information, but we all do not operate within a system that uses senority. I believe that schools should be run similar to businesses. I would welcome merit pay, school choice and more stringent educator testing. I feel the need to reiterate the fact that one should not confuse the thoughts/actions of educators with those of unions. You are asking folks in the public sector to, "take one for the team". I would venture to say that you would not do the same... " tivo.junkie wrote on Jun 26, 2008 8:29 AM: " Quackle; Since you think you don't feel entitled you won't have an issue with the town's need to reduce your benefit package as a means of reducing town expenses. Nor will you have an issue with the town's desire to remove seniority as a determination of who stays and who has to be laid off as part of our need to reduce staff. Thank you for proving my point. " quackle wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:13 PM: " I also wanted to add - tivo.junkie - Do you plan on (or currently collect) Social Security? If your answer is "yes", why do you feel so entitled to do so? I am not sure if you are aware of this but Massachusetts Educators are not eligible for Social Security. We pay into our own Retirement Plans (we do not rely upon government programs for our retirement planning)... just something to think about when you say that you feel an "overwhelming sense of entitlement" from those that work in public sector. " quackle wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 PM: " tivo.junkie- I am not sure where you get the "sense of entitlement" from... Could you please explain yourself? Just as you have shared, where I work, we have layoffs as well. These layoffs directly affect the quality of education for town children. As a result, class size increases which leads to a watered down learning experience. I believe in more government control at the town level, and less directives from the state. Thus, paying a bit more in taxes locally, is fine with me! Coming from a state where we paid more than double the property taxes, I see this increase as a necessity in maintaining a decent quality of life. " tivo.junkie wrote on Jun 25, 2008 3:55 PM: " Gosh, has this thing about public sector employees touched some sensitive nerves! There seems to be an overwhelming sense of entitlement amongst our public employees. Yes, I made my choice to work in the private sector. How things have changed there in the past 25 years. There's been corporate downsizing, outsourcing, off-shoring... all in the name of corporate greed. Perhaps in the interest of reducing town expenses, we should apply some of those corporate concepts to the public sector. Sorry, town hall employees, teachers, highway department workers and public safety employees, you've just been outsourced to an independent contractor. They're much cheaper. We've also found that some of your work can be at lower costs in India. Oh, by the way, Patriot Place is looking for help. " quackle wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:32 AM: " What? In response to Kevin H: Teachers do not work the whole year. You are absolutely correct, and thus, teachers do not get paid for the whole year. I am not sure where you are getting your information. The majority of educators are not politically active at all. I think you need to be very careful to differentiate thoughts/actions of educators and those of the unions. I am an educator, and I never complain about my salary. I chose my profession, and was well aware of its pros and cons. Again, I will state, if you think we have such a "good gig", go back to school and become a teacher (or perhaps substitute in a local school). " kevin h. wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:47 PM: " Teachers don't work a full year. And half that time they are pushing politics. Boo Hoo they cry, but they certainly have enough money for endless radio commercials full of fear mongering. "Give us the money or the kids get it!" Where is a competing teachers organization when you need it? " warner wrote on Jun 19, 2008 9:32 PM: " The results are legit and the override will benefit everyone in the long run. I am surprised about the low voter turnout considering it was well publicized throughout town and through the schools. " 7707 wrote on Jun 19, 2008 11:38 AM: " This darn override passed by 10 measley votes??? Sounds a bit suspicious. Who counted the ballots? " quackle wrote on Jun 19, 2008 6:28 AM: " I am not one to complain about how much teachers make. I chose to become an educator after weighing many options. I gave up a job that paid much more, so I have seen both sides. I just believe that we all have the opportunity to choose our professions. Those that complain about teachers, have the option to become one... Rising health care costs are a national problem. Idle complaining does nothing. Get involved - be part of the solution! " hope wrote on Jun 18, 2008 10:11 PM: " I know I misspelled a lot of words! It's late.FYI, I did vote yeas, but think the town really is not heading in the right direction. " hope wrote on Jun 18, 2008 10:09 PM: " I think I am being misunderstood! I was told that the unions would rather fire a town employee than have the benefits changed. I think the health insurance needs to be looked at. It costs the town a lot of money. The company I work for looks at different health insurance options each year. It cost me more and more each year. I think the towns need to have the employees pay a bit more for the premiums, etc. Also, FYI-I have a Masters in Ed. I do not teach at this time for daycare issues. I feel that 185 days a year with the money/benefits teachers make is more than sufficient. I do know they spend a lot of there own hard earned cash on stuff for classrooms, but still some of the salries are pretty high in town for tachers. And yes, my profession rewuires me to botain 75 continuing education credits each 5 year period and carry malpractive insurance and pay for state licensure, etc, which my employer or past employers do not cover! " warner wrote on Jun 18, 2008 9:46 PM: " Good point quackle! " quackle wrote on Jun 18, 2008 9:28 PM: " Another point... Hope wrote, "Unions would rather fire teachers than reduce benefits." Just out of curiosity, if YOUR COMPANY posed to you that it needed to save money and that in order for them to continue offering you health benefits they needed to let an employee go, what would you do? I highly doubt you would forgo health benefits for a co-worker... " quackle wrote on Jun 18, 2008 9:17 PM: " Hope: Here are some thoughts: 1. I would take your concerns to a "town" meeting. Why not discuss your ideas with individuals who have some impact on town politics? 2. Just like in other professions, educators pay more for the increase in health care costs on a yearly basis. If you feel that teachers have it so easy, why not go back to school and become an educator? We all choose our profession, no? By the way, all MA educators have to obtain a Master's degree and go through a recertification process every few years. Does your occupation require this? Teachers get no bonuses, no overtime opportunities and often take no pay raise from year to year. Just something to think about... " warner wrote on Jun 18, 2008 8:48 PM: " Hope wrote "Is Fernandes an elected official? If so, I doubt he'll get re-elected" ------ Are you kidding me? I hope that you don't live in Plainville. For your information Mr. Fernandes opted out of the health benefits and volunteered to pass on a raise. He is a good town manager in anyone's eyes. " hope wrote on Jun 18, 2008 8:37 PM: " quackle- I don't take a pay cut yearly, but my company does adjust the health insurance yearly which in a sense is a pay cut. Currently I pay a $20 co pay for each doctor visit and have a $2000 annual family deductible limit. So, the town employees get to go to a doctor visit 4 times for my one visit. I am sure their premiums are minimal. Like Kevin h wrote, union extortion! " quackle wrote on Jun 18, 2008 1:59 PM: " Whoops... I meant to write "contract" instead of "contact" " quackle wrote on Jun 18, 2008 1:35 PM: " I am just curious if you all attend Town or Selectmen Meetings? These meetings are great venues to voice your opinions and to become a part of the "solution". In my opinion, complaining doesn't solve a thing... **I think one would be surprised to see how little our Selectmen make. **Unions bargain for a unit of individuals. There are many components to negotiating a contact (salaries, health benefits, etc). By reducing the amount of one component, you are issuing a pay cut. I would ask those of you in the private sector, how often do YOU take pay cuts? " hope wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:20 PM: " I agree with tivo.junkie that the town should be looking at this close vote. The town employee health insurance really needs to be addressed,although I am told the unions are to blame. Unions would rahter fire teachers than reduce benefits. The town voted to help protect the senior center, but I wonder how many seniors are feeling the impact that they are being taxed out of their home? The town really needs to look at things. Can we reduce the library hours, town hall hours, etc.?? Do we need all those paras in the school? Can't teachers supervise recess and lunch instead of hiring someone?? I just don't see how this override will help us in the future. I see more and more overrides. Is Fernandes an elected official? If so, I doubt he'll get re-elected! " warner wrote on Jun 17, 2008 5:08 PM: " The good people of Plainville have spoken!! When my husband and I moved here several years ago, we were told a sign of a great town is one that takes care of their children and the seniors. Well, Plainville has proved that we are a great town. I feel bad for some of the older residents who might find the tax increase to be a burden, but someone paid for their children's education 30-40-50 years ago. Also, one is reminded of the saying "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance". " cpos wrote on Jun 17, 2008 11:53 AM: " aferr21...I can't agree more. There isn't any wiggle room this year. " aferr21 wrote on Jun 17, 2008 11:17 AM: " To answer Doug, if this happens next year, we (myself included) will need to take a close look at the pros and cons of an override to make an educated decision. If I see the town has made a lot of efforts to tighten the purse strings in line with the private sector, than I would consider it but if I see excessive spending outside of what takes place in the private sector, than my vote would be a definitive "no." " doug wrote on Jun 17, 2008 11:01 AM: " If they could truly see into the future the Plainville voters would not have voted for the override. The decision to approve this innitiative is very short sighted indeed. The knockout blow to those against the override was the property value threat....Below the belt for sure but effective! to affer21 and realist...speaking of no brainer, what happens next year? " aferr21 wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:41 AM: " To address "realist" and "SKEPTIC" who had posts I just want to clarify a few things. When I say "our children" I'm not talking about my child because he is only 2 and a half and not yet in the school system so I am currently paying for other peoples children as well, its how public schools work. So no, I don't want your money, my wife and I do just fine on our own thank you. It is the larger concept of how taxes work, you pay in to get something out. It's very narrow minded to think that your taxes are paying for someone else because they are also benefiting you in one form or another. I pay taxes to the town of Plainville for them to use on things such as schools, road work, library, etc. to maintain the town. Just because I don't drive on that road that was fixed, or use the library, doesn't mean I should go ask for a refund. While I did vote yes this time I completely agree that the town needs to tighten the reins ever further next year because a yes vote wont be as easy to come by as far as Im concerned. I work for a multi-billion dollar company and we have significantly tightened the budget, Plainville should do the same the next time around because an override isnt always the answer, sometimes tough decisions have to be made. " cpos wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:56 AM: " www.plainvilleforums.com " SKEPTIC wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:52 AM: " I notice that when anyone used the phrase "our children" they want more of "my money". " cpos wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:52 AM: " "They can see into the future???" I am sure everyone researched all of the town's numbers before voting. Based on everything I have learned about this override over the last few weeks, this only helps the 2009 budget. We are going to have to do this all over again next year. What will the town ask for then? As a resident of Plainville, I am unhappy with the way that this entire vote was communicated. Unless you read into everything, the only thing you heared was...."we're going to lose this and that." Well, we are still going to lose some of "this and that," and next year, we'll be in the same situation. The town needs to take a good look at how they use "emergency" funds for non-emergency projects....ie the Field of Dreams. " tivo.junkie wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:50 AM: " WIth the close vote, I hope town hall realizes that this isn't a solution that can be tapped each year. Be assured, unless I see real reductions in health insurance and other employee benefits I won't be voting 'yes' again. Bring your employee benefits in line with those in the private sector. " realist wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:49 AM: " Regarding the post "These are tough economical times we are in but when it comes to children, overall safety, and general town maintenance/adminstration, I would have to say that $16.66 a month extra isn't a big deal considering the alternative. " It would seem to me that if we are in tough economic times then that's all the more reason the town should live within its means. What happens when people start applying for abatements because the value of their homes has dropped? Will there be another override vote? " aferr21 wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:43 AM: " Paying more taxes isn't something people want to do, but if it is necessary to keep the town functioning at a sustainable level while providing a quality education to our children and better care for our seniors while at the same time helping keep property values above water, than I am for it. Surrounding towns pay much more in property taxes than we do so considering this override works out to on average, $16.66/month additional per household, a yes vote should be a no brainer to maintain the services we have now. Take a look at other towns who didn't pass overrides recently and the services they are losing (Winthrop and Franklin). Winthrop is cutting 14.6 full-time teaching positions, as a parent, that's disturbing. This override isn't about progress as the first poster commented, it is about maintaining what we currently have. These are tough economical times we are in but when it comes to children, overall safety, and general town maintenance/adminstration, I would have to say that $16.66 a month extra isn't a big deal considering the alternative. " realist wrote on Jun 17, 2008 8:26 AM: " I'm not sure I consider raising taxes a sign of progress. Although that would explain why liberals have started calling themselves "progressives". If a town wants to raise its taxes, that's the peoples' business. However,when less than 14% of the voters made a decision that affects the whole town that's disturbing. Where was everyone? It's not like people didn't know. Town officials even put signs up at the intersections to remind people to vote - unlike North Attleborough where we keep it a secret. " kevin h. wrote on Jun 17, 2008 8:21 AM: " And next year....... " kevin h. wrote on Jun 17, 2008 8:21 AM: " Union extortion works again. Woe to thee. " or
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